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Poster: Jim F Date: Sep 16, 2010 4:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

I'm with you there, I particularly like the run of shows from late July (7/25+26 aren't underrated per se, but would make a FINE Road trips...)running through September. Other personal favorites go to 8/21, 9/3, 9/24(!!), 9/28, then skip a bit later to 10/18/72. Just recently I started a big Fall 72 kick, busted out some 11/13, 10/28, 10/26, 11/26, etc. Got on a bit of a Philo kick.

I'm also big on Keith's first tour thru November 71. 11/15 is one of my all time favorite shows, possibly my favorite from 71.

I'm one of the few that just doesn't care for any of the pre-Keith stuff from 71. Within the exception of 4/5 and 8/14-15/71. Oh, and I can't forget 7/31. But the April Fillmore East run never gets much play with me, nor does Port Chester, or any of those college shows with all have the shorter material played well, but lose me with the predictable jams on Good Lovin at like every show. As well as the weird transitional period Other Ones (which are almost always redeemed by great early Wharf Rats, that's why I like 4/5 so much, and I do love 3/18/71).

Oh wow, it's really 7 am. I can't spend any more time rambling about my favorite tours and dates, I really should get to sleep. If I do now, I can get 8 hours sleep till I have to be at work at 4. Being a vampire is weird sometimes.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Sep 16, 2010 6:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

I second the 7/25-26 road trips, and I do think those shows are underrated, or at least underrepresented.

What draws people to 9/24? The Dark Star > China Cat is cool and the transition is done well, but the dark star doesn't seem particularly special to me; should I listen again to that, or are there other highs in that show that I have missed?

The november 71 tour should be legendary, and indeed it is to many people. My personal favorite is 11/07, but the not fade away from 11/15 is better (although 11/07 has a better GDTRFB). And yeah, I almost never listen to the April '71 shows. Apart from the 4/28 and 4/29 hard to handles, and the 4/29 alligator jam, nothing particularly of note seems to have happened on those dates. However, I am an advocate of 8/6; I think it's even better than it's been hyped up to be. But take that with a grain of salt; I mostly listen to the H2H from that show :)

Right now I'm trying to decide whether I should fork up the dollars for the latest road trips. It looks promising, and I'm constantly trying to find good 80s shows (I'm one of those who things the selection is pretty sparse), but is it going to be worth the $?

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 16, 2010 8:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

"is it going to be worth the $?"

Only if they include Jer noodling "High Above Cayuga's Waters" during the take a step back before Tennessee Jed...

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 16, 2010 8:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

'71 pre-Keith....not the Dead's finest hour in my book (though a lot of people like the "more rockin' short songs" approach).
But I love those "predictable" Good Lovin' jams! 4/25/71 gets me every time...and then the 4/26 version is totally different. You have to admit they're a huge improvement over those interminable 1970 Lovelights, drum solos aside....
Overall 1971 is a year I feel each month is better than the one before. April '71 gets pretty good from week to week, but August is much hotter (they should've waited longer to put together the live album!) - then when Keith joins they really hit the gas; it's like watching a caterpillar become a butterfly...

Fall '72, if we're speaking of 'tours', is split between three tours -
9/15 to 10/2 east coast,
10/17 to 10/30 midwest,
11/13 to 11/26 southwest (or mid-southwest or whatever you call it...interestingly, no trips to the southeast that year).
I'm so used to thinking in Dead "seasons" I've never given much thought to how much (or whether) these individual tours differ from each other. I have an impression of the jams becoming more intense, abstract, moody, 'darker' if you will (though a lot of that is the bass-heavy mixes in the later months). But would we notice if, say, 11/26/72 was switched with 9/16/72? As far as month-to-month changes, 12/31/72 has a lot more in common with 9/10/72 than it does with 2/19/73... Food for idle thought, perhaps....

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Poster: Jim F Date: Sep 18, 2010 2:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

I don't feel much like getting into all of it tonight, but there is one thing I've noticed about my own listening trends. It is funny how I used to be among those who can never express enough how great 1973 is, but oddly I rarely listen to much from the year these days. I guess it's because overall I've really cut down my GD listening quite a bit.